 Get Rational - Go to Nationalby dariusz |
Date posted: (12/13/2006) |
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| I had been a licensed health care professional for 15 years, before I had decided to enter the professional Doctor of Chiropractic Medicine Programm at NUHS. |
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| If you would like to graduate as a chiropractic physician, who is capable of working as a first-contact physician in your own practice and also be an equal partner to medical and osteopathic doctors in terms of disscusing different patient cases, go to National university. However, be prepared to study very hard for about 4 years. |
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| Great guided discovery curriculum, strict program, preparing the highest competency doctors of chiropractic medicine, who may be able to work in the hospital setting as well as in independent clinics. |
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 STAY AWAY FROM THIS SCHOOLby John64 |
Date posted: (11/11/2011) |
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| I am currently a student at NUHS in Lombard, IL. Originally this school seemed like an incredible and worthwhile investment. There philosophy was impressive, the educational curriculum seemed promising and advanced. Everything looked like I had made the right choice. UNTIL, I actually started the program.
This school is a big problem. Everything you are promised in terms of education and learning is a complete lie. Not to mention this is one of the most expensive Chiro schools!
The faculty - big problem. With few exceptions (1 or 2 professors), they are horrible. If you want to be taught by a professor, don't come here, b/c you have to teach yourself everything. Most professors are pig headed, ignorant, and although they may be great clinicians, are VERY BAD teachers.
Administration - not organized, not friendly, don't really care if you know what your doing, as long as their pockets are being filled. Students come last, money comes first.
Student Body - like anywhere else, some good, some bad. However, there is a competitive feeling that dominates and not much community feel. |
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| This depends - if you want to be a MSK doc, that practices Chiropractic DO NOT COME HERE. I am in my 7th trimester, and I don't know how to properly diagnose back pain, have no clue about treatment, and don't feel comfortable with my adjusting at all. This program will teach you the philosophy and ideology of how a good chiro would practice (which is great, and thank you for that), but not how to actually carry through with these ideas and turn them into a tangible diagnostic/treatment strategy.
If you are looking to practice internal medicine and primary care, and feel that your community will respond to this as a Chiropractor, this school may fit your needs. However, you will get better teachers and curriculum at a DO or MD school. |
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| Don't come here frankly. You need to learn the fundamentals of MSK and Chiropractic to practice well, even if you don't want to do primarily MSK. This is not taught here, you will be lost, frustrated and out 0,000-0,000.
Go to a different institution, one that is less $, better faculty, more improved student body, hold on to the same "integrative medical" philosophy, go to seminars (which is where you will learn the most important concepts and tools for your practice), get through Chiropractic school and move on with your life. You know what, I think a new school needs to be made, b/c the Chiropractic curriculum in general needs to be improved. An although National is attempting to do this, they are failing miserably. STAY AWAY from this school, I promise you it will be the best thing you have done for yourself, you WILL BE DISAPPOINTED HERE!
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| Waste of 0,000 by KMan |
Date posted: (11/11/2011) |
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| I've been keeping a tally of the incidents that have been occurring, to eventually present them to the dean. Then I realized, that wouldn't do much at all except collect dust on the dean's desk! Not to mention, why would the dean of this school share these situations with incoming students, it would clearly drive them away. So I will be fair, and show you, a potential student, trying to make an informed decision about where to spend your time, efforts and financial investment for your Chiropractic career; enjoy:
1. Professor Class Cancellations/No Show - 33x this has happened (I've only been here for 6 trimesters - that is a lot of my $ for nothing)
2. Professor Demeaning a Student/Picking on or making fun of a student - 162x (the faculty is notorious for being an issue at this school)
3. Course Lacking Quality/Organized Notes - to date, there have only been 4 courses out of the 50 or more that we have taken with adequate, legible, organized notes. Our adjusting courses are horrible and there is nothing to reference, no manual, no notes, half the time your handed a sheet of paper with not much description)
5. Facilities Not Working Properly - you can count on about 50/50 for the library printers and online connections. In other words, half the time you can't print, can't use online or something else is wrong with the computers. The labs are awful, very unhealthy to be in, unless you enjoy mold accumulating in your lungs.
6. # of Students Graduating and Feeling Uncomfortable - Every semester a few of my peers and I keep in touch with our friends from other trimesters to track and see how they are performing. We thought it would be a great way to learn from their mistakes and potentially gain some good insight as to what to expect when you graduate. 18/20 that we have spoken with said to transfer before its too late, are looking into other professions, or have simply said they still can't adjust and feel unprepared. |
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| Find a different Chiropractic school with a similar philosophy that actually fulfills their promises. |
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| Do not involve yourself with National. |
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 A Promising School that Turned Into a Let Downby ChiroChiroChiro |
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| After visiting a few chiropractic colleges, I chose National because it was close to home and it seemed like an okay school.
I was sadly mistaken. While National has it's good points, the bad out weighed the good, for me anyways. Many of the departments are out of sync making things difficult for knowing what's going on at the school as far as financial aid, certain campus policies, etc.
While I only attended a year, I came across only a handful of decent professors. Some of the teachings were so far fetched and practically 'made up' by some professors, that when I spoke of some things I had learned to students from other chiropractic colleges, they laughed.
Another thing that was a problem for me was class cancellation. There was one class in particular where the professor would cancel class every Friday. While it's great to have a Friday afternoon off from school, I'm not paying tuition to have a teacher skip school once a week. Not to mention a certain amount of hours of each subject are required to even receive a degree in chiropractic.
With the National curriculum, each class only has 2-3 tests every trimester. This is a horrible way of testing because all your knowledge from 6 weeks is crammed into only 50 questions on an exam.
Adjusting labs were decent. The professors were very knowledgeable and clubs were a great way to tweak your skills. Fraternity and Sorority were great too because a highly regarded professor would show us adjusting techniques each week.
Now that National is opening a campus in Florida, some of the wonderful professors from the Illinois campus are leaving. I'm surprised the CCE even let National open another campus. It was also noticeable that so much money was being put into opening the new school that the current school was lacking necessary equipment to help its students have a better learning experience. |
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| The different areas of the school need to be more in sync with one another which would make the school run easier for everyone. The heads of the departments should take seriously the complaints of students, especially when these complaints could affect the schools accreditation. It would be nice to have tests more than only a few times each term so that better care can be put into learning the material. There is also a handful of unapproachable professors who seem like they don't even like students let alone teaching. The hierarchy could use some work and should take serious consideration to suggestions by the students. |
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| Overall, I think National isn't a great school, but it isn't a horrible school either. Maybe the Oriental Medicine program or the Nutrition or Massage Therapy programs are much better but as for chiropractic, I think students would be better off at a different school. One that has the whole package: great teachers, helpful faculty and staff, good accommodations and classrooms and an overall handle on what it means to be an excellent chiropractic college. National should stick to Oriental Medicine and Massage Therapy and leave chiropractic to those school that know what they are doing. |
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| Toughest Curriculum in Industry by tdturbo |
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| After attending CCOM, D.O. school, NCC made that look like high school. Very thorough and complete school. This school is not for the weak minded, it is extremely difficult, demanding and rewarding. It makes you an internal medicine primary care physician that practices Chiropractic. |
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| This is the Harvard of Health Sciences, this includes medical schools. If you want to be a doctor and are not very bright, go to med school, it's much easier and less time. NCC requires 9 yrs of education vs. 8 for medical school. If you can handle it, a degree from National will put you on top of the rest. |
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| HORRIBLE SCHOOL by medstjean |
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| I am currently a student at this school, studying to become a Doctor of Chiropractic Medicine. At first, National seemed amazing,the curriculum was intense, we were going to learn so much, etc. At this point, I am disgusted with this school. There are a few amazing teachers, the majority however, are horrible! Some don't teach, others don't show up for class and there are a bunch you simply can't understand. You will end up teaching yourself everything if you want to be a good doc. Everything is taught like undergrad, you have to regurgitate info, never mind learn it - waste of time.
Prior to becoming a student at National, I was at Life West in Cali. In 1 semester at Life I felt more comfortable with the spine, palpation and manipulation that I do in 5 semesters at National. The worst part is that you can still pass these classes without knowing what your doing.
You would think your tuition expenses would be put towards good teachers, good notes, resources and help when you need it. Not the case, half of the professors notes are extremely poor and make no sense. It is a joke in the student body how much we are not learning - this in my opinion is just sad. |
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| If you can, go elsewhere! I would have transferred a long time ago if I wasn't so far into the program. I really don't like to say this, because there are great things about this school, don't think there isn't. But, for your money and time, go somewhere else, you'll be a better doctor when you get out. |
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| NOT A GOOD SCHOOL....oh yea and the study body sucks! Your not surrounded by a bunch of ambitious people, its more like high school or college where all everyone wants to do is the bare minimum and then go get drunk.... |
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| National -- where you learn to Dx and Tx the WHOLE body by chirogal |
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| Chiropractic is a 2nd career for me and having worked in the healthcare industry in my "former life" I can tell you that this school isn't perfect, could be improved, but is 2nd to NONE in the preparation of chiropractic physicians rather than just chiropractic technicians. We understand the relationship that the nervous system has on the rest of the body as well as reverse. Sometimes it's not just a matter of fixing the nervous system. Knowing the difference and when our allopathic counterparts are needed is part of what makes us good doctors. |
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| The school needs morale work as well as vertical and horizontal alignment in the curriculum to identify areas of overlap and potential areas of "thinness". |
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| For an education that prompts comments from other healthcare professionals like, "I can trust that these doctors know what they are doing when that isn't the case with some of the other schools." and that we are respected in our hospital rotations -- then come to National. |
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| Strong program, but be ready to be broken down along the way by CD |
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| This school is going through some hard times. In the first 2yrs nearly 40% of the students are on academic probation, and overall there is about a 20% attrition rate. Moreover the school is falling apart (outdated technology, insufficient services, bathrooms broken). If you have not been a premed major, be ready for "Nasty Nate" (anatomy instructor, nicknamed by another professor) to make his class unnecessarily difficult. This is compounded by Dr Darby who is lacking interest in teaching histology and therefore only shows up 2/3 of the classroom hours that students have paid for. Tutors are overwhelmed by most of the students showing up nearly every time they meet. But these tutors are there to help answer questions not substitute teach for the neglectful instructors.
People say it gets better and certainly there is a marked difference in the vitality, support and enthusiasm of the instructors once on the clinical side of the program. Although, the clinic at National is falling apart (old equipment, mold throughout the facility, heating/ventilation issues).
Unfortunately, the faculty and the administration are not well connected. The president of the school is aloof and not at all resonating with the students. the dean of the chiropractic program is not liked by the students and not supported by the faculty due to his autocratic and disrespectful manner. Although the faculty are clearly quite bright and have a wealth of knowledge, unfortunately this is no indicator of how good or bad they are as an instructor. In many cases they have never been trained to teach (this could be true at any school). The education here is squarely on your shoulders and don't expect much if any assistance from faculty.
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| The school needs more funding so it can secure its future and pay for better instructors. Major work to build stronger relationships between the administration, faculty, staff and students for it is sorely lacking. Instructors should be trained to teach. Respect should be paramount and granted to everyone whether you are a student or work for the school. There really needs to be a cafeteria not just vending machines. And there needs to be places where students can hang out, not only the library where the lights buzz as though you are under a mosquito lamp. |
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| While students leave here being well educated, it required unnecessarily being broken down. There is a major dearth of cohesion and support at this school. Few people seem to really like being there, they are rather putting up with it and biding their time. Although you could leave here with a great deal of knowledge, it begs the question as to whether you are cramming in as much information as possible only to vomit it on an exam and then to promptly forget most of it so you can cram for the next.
If I were to do it all over again, I wish I had researched other schools more. Certainly I would have given National a pass had I known how much better many other programs are. |
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| Best School Bar None by DrT |
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| Get student loans |
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| This is the research arm of the profession |
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